Alfred Joseph Cramp [244] ¹

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  Noted events in his life were:

• Registration: Birth, 1866, Yass District, New South Wales. ⁴ 16841/1866
CRAMP, ALFRED
ALFRED
ELIZABETH L
YASS

• Newspaper: Country Travels, 1905 Oct 13, New South Wales, Australia. ⁵ Country Travels. (1905, October 13). Argyle Liberal and District Recorder (NSW : 1903 - 1930), p. 2. Retrieved January 29, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article99655527>

Country Travels.
(By G.F.)
For a mile beyond Numby the road
…
Now Roache is behind us, and the
road becomes still rougher; and anon
we are in the timber again. Bearing,
more to the south we lose sight of the
river for some two miles, and then
emerge upon the road proper. At the
same time we are confronted by a
gate, beyond which is an extensive
clearing, with a very pretty and mod-
ern homestead, that of the Balgowan
family, situated on a gentle eminence
some half-mile to the left. In former
days the homestead of the Balgowan's
stood near the river bank, but seventy
came and the river rose in its might,
and carrying dire destruction in its
track, grabbed house, crops, and all
else pertaining thereto, nearly taking
the people also. Though the whole of
the family were strict water drinkers,
this dose was rather too much for
them, and they built further back.
Then again they have still farther re-
treated, and I think they are now safe
from any flood short of a Noah that
may come to that part. This property
is known as Dryburg, and being now
on the made road the travelling, as far
as the horse and trap is concerned,
becomes much pleasanter. Dryburg
is but four miles-from Reid's Flat, and
as you approach the latter place you
become aware that now indeed you are
getting among the mountains. One
huge mass, encircled by others, that
fronts you looks like some antidiluvian
monster crouchant in a titanic amphi-
theatre, whilst away to the north-east,
where, the river runs, other huge,
masses tower skyward in majestic con-
fusion. In the distance comes a bright
gleam of water, and clearings are
sighted, also a few scattered houses;
but you cannot see the township yet.
I have an impression that you will
have to wait a few years ere you do
so. You may not comprehend me, so
let me explain. Reid's Fiat as a
township, is yet in the womb of the
future. The nucleus is represented by
an hotel and store, the former kept by
Mr Cramp, than whom I may say,
without fear of contradiction, a more
worthy and honest follow as a publi-
can does not exist, whilst the spirits
kept, (a rare thing as a rule in country
hotels) are of the very best quality,
and let me not forget the table, as
presided over by the landlord's wife,
would be worthy of imitation by many
of our hosts in some of our large town-
ships. I have a distinct and some-
what lively, recollection of an hotel at
which I stayed on, my first visit to
Reid's Flat. I think it was in the,
year '76, and the marked contrast be-
tween then and now 'being so great;
induced this praise of mine. My ex-
perience in the old days was one of the
memorable episodes of my life, and I
should like to recount same to the
readers os the "Liberal," but this I
must leave to a future article.

• Newspaper: APPROVAL OF AFTER-AUCTION PURCHASES, 1906 Dec 21, Burrowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ⁶ A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to All. (1906, December 21). The Burrowa News (NSW : 1874 - 1951), p. 2. Retrieved June 18, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article114457195>

APPROVAL OF AFTER-AUCTION PURCHASES-
'97 The following application under section
56 of the Crown Lands Act of 1895 has
been approved :'97 Alfred Cramp, of Reid's
Flat, hotelkeeper, 1 rood 8 perches, in the
village of Numby, price £3.

• Newspaper: A REID'S FLAT CASE, 1913 Sep 6, Cowra District, New South Wales, Australia. ⁷ A REID'S FLAT CASE. (1913, September 6). Cowra Free Press(NSW : 1911 - 1921), p. 4. Retrieved June 11, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article99616785>

A REID'S FLAT CASE.
An Ejectmant Suit
Before His Honor, Judge Soholes,
William Newham sought to eject
Alfred Cramp from certain farm
lands at Reid's Flat.
Mr. Mac Abbott (of Messrs. Abbott,
Tout and Page, Burrowa) for plain-
tiff, Mr Gilcreest (of Messrs. Garden
and Gilcreest) for defendant.
William Newham deposed he was
a grazier residing at Reid's Flat;
was the executor in the estate of
Charles Thomas Newham (his
brother) ; knew defendant ; the cer-
tificates (produced) referred to the
land.
After a lengthy legal argument
Stuart Belcher deposed he was a
licenced surveyor ; saw C. T. New-
ham sign the transfer (produced) of
and from George Alfred Newham tp
Charles Thomas Newham, dated
1904 ; also saw Geo. Alfred Newham
sign same.
Witness Newham (continuing):
This C.P and C. L. is that referred
to in the documents (produced) ; de-
fendant has his stock on the land;
Defendant had neglected to give up
the land and had never said anything
in response to notices; defendant told
witness he leased the paddock from
his (witnesses) brother ; the notice
(produced) was sent in 1911 and the
second (produced) in 1912 ; should say
defendant had been about 9 years in
possession; the property would be
worth under £700.
To Mr. Gilcreest : Know the land
well ; had been on it almost eveiy
week across a track ; am quite certain
the documents refer to my property ;
my brother told me defendant had the
land leased for £10 per year; he said
defendant was a good tenant, but he
was hard to get money out of; my
brother said nothing about a sale to
defendant; gave defendant notice to
remove his stock.
Witness (continuing). I don't re-
member a letter from defendant's
solicitor stating that the property had
been sold to him; Messrs. Abbott,
Tout and Co were acting for witness ;
my brother died at the Grenfell
Hospital; my brother lived with me
for a great many years.
By Mr. Abbott.: Defendant never
tendered me any money or produced
receipts for any payments or showed
that he paid any money to my
brother.
Stuart H, Belcher deposed he
measured a number of portions in
parish Wyangala; surveyed the pot-
tion in dispute; they are portions 130
and 138 parish Wyangala.
For the defence.
Alfred Cramp deposed he was a
hotelkeepir at Reid's Flat ; had been
there about 10 years ; knew the late
Chas. T Newham ; he had a farm of
156 acres; leased the property at
per year from him ; that began
about 9 years ago in Nov. ; knew
him well ; had paid the rent to him
from time to time ; Newham was not
a well educated man ; Reid's Flat
has one hotel and two stores ; never
i recpived auy receipts ; had a settle-
ment every year about Nov. ; about
two years before Newham died wit-
ness asked him if he wished to sell
the place to give witness first offer ; I
there was no further mention until
the following November when de-
ceased asked witness had he any
notion of buying ; told him he would
consider while longer ; Newham
said he wasn't in very good health
and he would sell, and if he didn't
take it Mr. Bowd would ; he said he
wanted to go to the doctor at Bur-
rowa and then asked for a loan of £5,
and said he would give three months
longer to make up his (witness') mind
about the place, and to keep it on
the same as before ; Newham went to
the hospital and remained there two
or three weeks, when he came back
to Bowd's place, near Reid's Flat ; a
few weeks later he was again sick
and he said he thought he'd go to
the Crookwell doctor and he then
asked witness what he'd do about the
place ; told him he'd buy it ; gave him
or £18 anil he then said he could
fix up the rest when he came back ;
he was away 3 or 4. weeks there ; he
wired to be brought back as he was
getting better and witness went and
brought him ; he stayed about two
days and then went to Bowd's ; a day
or two later Bowd came in and told
him deceased was very sick; gave
him some more money after he came
from Crookwell; when he went to
Bowd's owed him £110 on the place;
bonght the land at £1 per acre ; Bowd
took him to Grenfell hospital where
he died ; went to the hospital in re-
sponse to a message with a nephew
of deceased; the Matron handed a
document to the nephew and said
something; they both read it; the
nephew took the document away ; the
document (produced) was that re-
ferred to.
The Court then adjourned until 10
a.m. on Friday.
Alfred Cramp (continuing); Plain
tiff has never asked for the balance
of the purchase money ; it was to be
paid in about 12 months : got a letter
from plaintiff's attorney, which he
answered ; received different letters
and answered each ; in one of those
letters referred them to Mr. D. R.
Hall, who was acting for him at that
time ; got notice to remove his stock.
To Mr. Abbott: Did not bother
about, tending payment after receiving
the notice ; did not know who to pay
the money to: knew William New-
ham was the administrator; the letter
(produced) is in my writing ; remem-
bered swearing there was no writing
between us and that I took no re-
ceipts; the letter saying I had lost
the agreement in not quite true; de-
ceased was given to drink a little, but
not too much ; did not think his ill-
ness was caused by such; deceased
never worried about receipts; the
receipt (produced) was given to a
relative by deceased ; it was for the
sale of a saddle ; at Frogmore was a
witness for Mr. Bowd against the
administrator of the estate ; paid £40
on the property ; deceased owed about
previously; lent him money; will
swear I did not tell other people the
deposit was £10; Mr. Hull handed
the case over to Messrs Beeby & Mof-
fit later Messrs. Garden and Gil -
creest were given the case ; had not
deliberately delayed getting off the
case; did not think I was bound
to pay for the rent of the property all
this time; the arrangement started in
November and we had annual settle-
ments about that time; no paper
passed between as; wholesale houses
always send me a receipt; some people
don't bother about; the purchase
money was £150.
By Mr. Gilcreest: The balance of
was to stand for 12 mouths;
knew deceased well; the document at
Grenfell was what I referred to in
my letter.
Hector Bowd deposed he was a a
sheep farmer a Reid's Flat; knew
defendant, also deceased ; knew de-
fendant was leasing deceased's farm ;
deceased was living with witness for
some time ; deceased told witness
defendant was tenting the farm at
about £12 per year ; deceased was
not a good writer ; often wrote for
him ; had consulted with deceased
about the sale of the farm and some
little time before he died he said he
had sold it to Cramp ; told him pre-
viously that when selling it he want
ed little money cash and 12 months
to pay the balance ; paid him a few
s and lent him a few ; no receipts
passed.
To Mr.Abbott: Deceased told me
about the Nov. before he died Cramp
had the offe ; remembered taking an
action against the Administrator of
the estate ; mentioned about advanc-
ing money to the deceased.
Mabel Hain deposed she was
Matron of Cowra Hospital; in March,
1911, was M atron at Grenfell ; was
Matron when Charles Henry New-
ham was a patient there ; he was
nursed by Nurse Lindsay, who died
since ; Newham died from heart
trouble ; some few days before New-
ham died Nurse Lindsay spoke to
her ; the document (produced) was
in Nurse Lindsay's handwriting; held
possession of the document until the
patient died ; then sent a message to
some of deceased's representatives,
who then came, and she handed it to
him ; it was someone from outside
Cowra.
To Mr. Abbott : As far as I know
there was no trace of alcohol contri-
buting to deceased's death.
Wm, Henry Newham deposed he
was a nephew of deceased ; knew the
property in dispute ; defendant spoke
to him on the day of the burial; there
was a letter handed to witness at
Grenfell Hospital ; read the letter to
defendant ; said "Wm. Newham is
my uncle, I consider" ; defendant
told him to go to Reid's Flat, which
he did ; asked defendant if he could
show any papers and he could not ;
said "Well, I'll have to administer ,
his " ; defendant said " That's the
only way "; said " What did uncle
owe you on the place " ? he replied
" £10 " ; defendant said " That was
the deposit paid on the place ; de-
ceased had very little education ; '
occasionally deceased drank a little ;
remembered getting a receipt from
deceased for a saddle ; witness wrote
it and deceased signed it.
To Mr. Gilcreest: The letter (pro-
duced was that I received from the
Matron ; defendant said he was will-
ing to pay the balance and complete
the purchase ; there has been a doubt
as to who was the Wm Newham ;
once my uuole promised to leave me
the land.
Mr. Gilcreest then addressed the
Court.
Mr. Abbott briefly replied.
His Honor reserved judgement.

• Newspaper: Licensing Court, 1913 Sep 26, Burrowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ⁸ Licensing Court. (1913, September 26). The Burrowa News(NSW : 1874 - 1951), p. 2. Retrieved June 13, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101608803>

Licensing Court.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 22.
(Before Messrs. B. Morgan
(Chairman), and Messrs. C. L.
Hume and W. J- McPherson.)

Approval was given to Al-
fred Cramp's application for
alterations to the Reid's Flat
Hotel.

• Newspaper: Reserved Decision, 1913 Oct 10, Burrowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ⁹ Reserved Decision. (1913, October 10). The Burrowa News(NSW : 1874 - 1951), p. 3. Retrieved June 13, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101604076>

Reserved Decision.
NEWHAM V. CRAMP.
In the case of William Newham
versus Alfred Cramp, heard at Cowra
on the 5th and 6th September last, the
Judge's reserved decision has been given
in favour of the defendant. He found
that C. T. Newham sold the land to
the defendant, for £150. That defen-
dant paid Charles Newham the sum of
in part payment therefor, and
that there remained the sum of £110
payable as the balance of the purchase
money. He also decided that as the
equitable defence was pleaded at the
trial by leave of the Court, each party
should pay his own costs.

• Newspaper: Action For Slander, 1925 Apr 7, Wagga Wagga District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹⁰ Action For Slander. (1925, April 7). Daily Advertiser (Wagga Wagga, NSW : 1911 - 1954), p. 2. Retrieved June 18, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143352142>

Action For Slander
CHARGES AGAINST SCHOOL
TEACHERS
SYDNEY Monday.
In the Banco court today, two school
teachers, William Trewhells and Wil-
liam Carse, sued Alfred Cramp and
Richard M 'Donald, to recover £1000
damages in each case for alleged slan-
der.
Evidence was given that the plain-
tiff's were teaching in a half-time
school at Reid's flat in the Goulbum
district, and both alleged that Cramp
and M 'Donald, two local residents,
sent a report about them to the De-
partment of Education.
The report is alleged to have con-
tained references to the character
the two young men, and one part read
"I have carefully inspected the house
in which they lived and have been
astounded by the filthy condition in
which they lived. They are now
boarding at a place in which there are
three sleeping rooms in which fourteen
people slept last night, and at which
a woman was confined yesterday morn-
ing. Decent-minded people are shock-
ed at this state of things which
savors strongly of moral depravity."
The report deemed it highly impera-
tive that an inquiry should be held
into the conduct of the two men.
Plaintiffs denied that there was any
truth in the charges made against
them.
The hearing had not concluded when
the court rose.

• Newspaper: AT REID'S FLAT, 1925 Apr 24, Burrowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹¹ AT REID'S FLAT. (1925, April 24). The Burrowa News (NSW : 1874 - 1951), p. 5. Retrieved June 18, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article103199148>

AT REID'S FLAT,
Two Teachers.
Each Claims £1,000.
Two young school teachers, Wil-
liam Leonard Trewhella and Wil-
liam Edward Carse, who were
teaching half-time schools in the
Reid's Flat district, allege that
two of the residents, Alfred Cramp
and Richard McDonald, sent a re-
port about them to the Depart-
ment of Education.
The report was stated to have
included the following references :
"'I think that it is highly im-
perative that an inquiry be held
into the conduct of two school
teachers here, Trewhella and
Carse. These people seem to be
devoid of the instinct of cleanli-
ness. I have carefully inspected
the house in which they lived, and
have been astounded by the filthy
condition in which they lived.
They are now boarding at a place
in which there are three sleeping
rooms in which 14 people slept
last night, and at which a woman
was confined yesterday morning.
The decent-minded people are
shocked at this state of things,
which savours strongly of moral
depravity."
It was also alleged against the
two teachers that they had been
instrumental in having certain in-
decent posters put up about Reid's
Flat.
In the Banco Court each sued
Cramp aud McDonald for alleged
slander, claiming £1,000 damages
in each ease. The cases were
taken together.
Mr. Tucker, in his opening, said
that plaintiffs had lived for a time
in a boarding-house at Reid's Flat.
Previously, Trewhella and his
young wife had lived in a house
rented from the defendant Cramp.
It was alleged that Cramp had
said of the plaintiffs: "They are
dirty black Australians, not fit to
be school teachers, and dirty mon-
grels.' Defendants wanted to get
the teachers out of the village. In
the boarding-house in which de-
fendants said 14 people were stay-
ing there were the proprietor, his¶wife, and six children, and the two
plaintiffs. Plaintiffs had a room
to themselves.
Plaintiffs denied that there was
any truth in the allegations made
against them.
The hearing had not concluded
when the Court rose.
Mr. Tucker and Mr. Hill (in-
structed by Mr. J. W. Abigail) ap-
peared for the plaintiffs, and Mr.
Hardwick (instructed by Mr. J.
Montgomerie) for the defendants,
who pleaded not guilty and set up
justification.
The hearing wan continued in
the Banco Jury Court, before Mr.
Justice Campbell and a jury, of
the four actions for alleged slander
brought by two public school
teachers, William Leonard Tre-
whella and William Edward Carse.
against Alfred Cramp and Richard
McDonald.
Plaintiffs claimed £1,000 dam-
ages in each case. All the parties
were residents of Reid's Flat.
Cramp being a local hotelkeeper.
McDonald a storekeeper, and the
two young school teachers being
stationed in the village.
Plaintiffs based their case on
the fact that a scurrilous report
concerning them had been for
warded to the Education Depart-
merit, as they alleged, by the de-
fendants. The defendants denied
that their letters were slanderous
and set up the defence of truth
and public benefit.
Evidence was called for the
plaintiffs to show that their con-
duct and mode, of living while at
Reid's Flat was above reproach.
Rev. W, J. S. Rankin, who said
he was Presbyterian minister at
Boorowa, about 35 miles from
Reid's Flat, detailed a conversa-
tion that he had with Cramp and
McDonald at the former's hotel,
concerning the indecent posters
which some persons had attached
to trees in the neighbourhood. He
was told thaf Trewhella aud Carse
were the ringleaders of the gang
responsible for the posters.
The Complaints.
"I said," added witness, "that
the man who was guilty of writing
such stuff ought to be horse-
whipped in the public street."
Witness said that apart from
Mr. and Mrs. Cramp and Mc-
Donald, no one had made any com-
plaints to him about the plaintiffs.
Richard McDonald, one of the
defendants, said he bad been a
freelance journalist for 35 years.
The writing on one of the indecent
placards resembled Trewhella 's.
On the day following that on
which Trewhella and his wife va-
cated the house he had occupied
witness said he visited the place
aud found the rooms in a filthy
condition. Witness did uot ac-
cuse Carse and Trewhella of writ-
ing the posters.
'We suspected them,' sajd wit-
ness, 'because they were the only
educated people in the town, and
the posters were the work of edu-
cated brains.'
Witness said that every time
Trewhella passed his store he used
to call out to him, 'Dirty Dick.'
Wife deserter,' That was because
witness had prosecuted Trewhella
for kicking in his shop door. Wit-
ness said it was a fact that 14
persons lived at the small board-
ing-house where the plaintiffs
stayed. All witness desired in
writing to tiic department was to
have an inquiry into the conduct
of the plaintiffs.
In the actions by plaintiffs against
M'Donald the jury awarded j£150
damages in each case. In the
action against Cramp the damages
awarded were £25 in each case.

• Newspaper: REID'S FLAT HOTEL TO CLOSE, 1935 Nov 15, Burrowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹² REID'S FLAT HOTEL TO CLOSE. (1935, November 15). The Burrowa News (NSW : 1874 - 1951), p. 4. Retrieved June 18, 2014, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article102354888>

REID'S FLAT HOTEL
TO CLOSE
licenses Reduction Board's
Decision
The members of the Licences
Reduction Board, Mr. J. Luid-
law (chairman) and Messrs. T.
W. Cohen and W. C. Geike
(members) sat at Boorowa on
Friday to hear an application by
Alfred Cramp (owner) and
Michael Connolly (licensee) to
surrender the building and
licence of the Reid's Flat Hotel
whicn has been in existence for
over 50 years
Mr. L. J. O'Neill, solicitor, of
Boorowa, appeared for the owner
and licensee.
Mr. Laidlaw (the chairman) said
that objections had been called for
and a letter was received from Mr.
J. S. Tyson signing his name as hon.
secretary to a meeting of Reid's Flat
resident held on 24th August at
which the closing of the Reid's Flat
Hotel was unanimously objected to.
There was no appearance of any
of the objectors.
Evidence was taken by the Board
and Alfred Cramp, the owner of the
building, said he resided at Young
and was a retired publican. He was
the owner of the Reid's Flat Hotel
premises. He produced the deed of
the property on which the Royal
Hotel at Reid's Flat is erected. There
was not any mortgage on the land.
Michael Connolly is the present li-
censee with verbal leases at a rent
of £1 per week. He is a weekly ten-
ant since July last. He first became
a tenant in August, 1934 at £2/5/-
per week. The rent had been re-
duced to £1 per week. He remem-
bered the last Licensing Court in
June last. Connolly was paying £1 a
week from that date. In 1928 he
first leased this property. He had
been 26 years in business and he first
leased the Hotel to Hughie Gemmell.
He wanted to surrender the license
of the hotel for the reason that he
could not afford to build. An order
has been made to re-build the hotel.
There are not enough of the travel-
ling public to make a living at my
hotel. About seven years ago he was
in the hotel. About six or seven a
night used to stop there. He charged
8/- per day. He did not know why
the liquor purchases in 1928 and 1927
were double those of any other
period either before or after that
date. He supposed it happened to
be a good year. There was a good
deal of rabbiting going on then and
the skins were a high price. He did
not think the public would be incon-
venienced by the closing of the hotel.
The premises are in a bad state and
in a more or less ruinous condition.
The building was partly burnt down
and not repaired. He consented to
the order made at the annual Licen-
sing Court for the hotel to be re-
built and at that time he had in mind
to exercise his right to apply for sur-
render. He had no intention of re-
building the place. The volume of
business done there would not justify
the rebuilding of the hotel in brick
or cement. Boorowa is 36 miles from
Reid's Flat and Bigga is 16 miles
away; Cowra is 37 miles away. There
is not much traffic at Reid's Flat.
There are about 100 people in the
town counting women and children.
Michael Connolly deposed that he
was the licensee of the Reid's Flat
Hotel and went into occupation on
2nd August, 1934. When he first
went into the hotel he had a lease
in writing that expired on 30th June
last. He was paying £2/5/- a week
up till 30th June last when he agreed
verbally to pay £1 a week. It was a
weekly tenancy. Very few of the
travelling public passed through
Reid's Flat. He produced his register
and lodgers' book. They were a bit
scorched from the fire. One hundred
and sixty nine persons stayed a night
at the hotel since August 1934 '97 less
than three a week. They would av-
erage about two or three aweek.
The Federal Hotel, Bigga, was 12 or
13 miles away. Reid's Flat was 36
miles from Boorowa and Cowra was
41 miles away. I do not consider the
place warrants a hotel. There are
about 120 people in the village of
Reid's 'Flat. There are about 15
families in the village itself. There
are about 60 adults. There are ho-
tels at Woodstock, Cowra, Crookwell,
Bigga and Boorowa. Reid's Flat was
an out of the way place for traffic to
go through. No one stays at the hotel.
There would be about five or six
cricket matches a year and sports
once or twice a year. The people
did not stay the night. There is a
police officer at Reid's Flat. He rents
a house. Reid's Flat off the main
road. The business is not sufficient
to warrant a hotel at Reid's Flat.
There was only a starvation exist-
ence there and a person would starve-
there. He knew the district for the
past 15 years and had been the licen-
cee since 1934. The large purchases
of liquor in 1928 would; be due to the
boom in rabbit skins at that time
when they were worth 6/- or 7/- a
pound. A rabbiter could make
a night and they spent well.
There are only a few men employed
about there now. Mr. Tyson is a
school teacher and does hot drink.
He stayed at my hotel for 12 months
and paid £1/6/- a week board. He
heard there was a meeting called to
object to the closing of the hotel and
that about 16 people were present.
Local people did not patronise the
hotel much. They did not drink
much there. They called in occasion-
ally. If the place was closed the pub-
lic would not suffer any inconveni-
ence. The place has gone down. If
you wanted to renovate you would
not know where to start. I agree it
is in a dilapidated state. It has never
been repaired since it was partly
burnt down. It would not justify
the expenditure of £2000 on a new
building. A record of my takings
shows an average of £6/10/- a week.
I have no record in writing. A re-
cord book I have shows the people
who stayed at the hotel. The book
kept my record of taking was burnt
in the fire. I kept a record up to the
time of the fire. Since February last
I have no such record. I did not take
the trouble to keep a record of all my
takings since being in the premises.
I have a bank account. I put all the
money I take through my account.
The chairman asked the witness if
he understood this question thor-
oughly, because he would require to
be careful as incorrect information
may come back at him in another
way and you will alter your tune.
Witness, continuing, said he un-
derstood the question. He paid his
accounts sometimes by cash and
cheque. In a place like Reid's Flat
business is mostly transacted by
cheque. He considered that he paid
80% of his takings into the bank. I
am telling the truth. I am sure I paid
that 80% into my banking account
Sergeant William Payne, Licensing
Inspector for the Boorowa Licensing
District, said he made a report on the
Royal Hotel at Reid's Flat at the last
sitting of the Licensing Court in
Boorowa.
The inspector's report was then
read by the chairman.
Sergeant Payne said they repre-
sented his views with regard to the
hotel. There was a population of
about 120 people at Reid's Flat of
which 66 were adults and old age
pensioners and children. He had
visited the district twice in the four
years he had been in Boorowa. There
was no traffic past the village and it
was situated at a dead end. A police
officer was stationed at Reid's Flat.
The closing of the hotel would not
cause any inconvenience.
Mr. Tyson's letter objecting to the
closing of the hotel was read: '97
'At a public meeting held on Sat-
urday, 24 th August, those present
unanimously objected to the pro-
posed surrender and cancellation of
the license in respect of the 'Royal
Hotel,' Reid's Flat, owing to lack of
accommodation for tourists and com-
mercial travellers.
'I was also instructed to request
that you let me know if, and when,
an inspection of the above building
is to be made If so, some of the
citizens of Reid's Flat district could
discuss the mater with the Board".
The Board determined that the
license shall, subject to provisions of
part 27 of the Liquor Act, 1919, cease
to be in force.
Compensation for the owner and
licensee will be determined by the
Board sitting in Sydney at a later
date.

• Registration: Death, 1951, Young District, New South Wales, Australia. 31165/1951CRAMPALFREDALFREDLOUISAYOUNG

• Newspaper: OBITUARY, 1951 Nov 20, Goulburn District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹³ OBITUARY. (1951, November 20). Goulburn Evening Post(NSW : 1940 - 1957), p. 2 Edition: Daily and Evening. Retrieved April 18, 2013, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article100165032>

OBITUARY
Mr. Alfred Cramp
The death took place at Young
recently of Mr. Alfred Cramp,
at the age of 85.
Born at Binda, deceased was
a son of the late Alfred and
Louisa Cramp. His family was
associated with hotel-keeping
for many years ,and he owned
and conducted the Royal Hotel
at Reid's Flat for 25 years be-
fore retiring and going to Young
to live.
He was married to Miss Clare
Newham, the ceremony being
performed at Wyangala. His
wife and daughter, Sylvia (Mrs.
J. C. Miller, of Young) survive
him.

• Newspaper: OBITUARY, 1951 Nov 23, Boorowa District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹⁴ OBITUARY. (1951, November 23). Boorowa News (NSW : 1951 - 1954), p. 4. Retrieved July 22, 2013, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article120176580>

OBITUARY
MR. ALFRED CRAMP
A resident of Young for 22
years, the death occurred re-
cently of Mr. Alfred Cramp, at
the age of 85 years.
Born at Binda, the deceased
was a son of the late Alfred
and Louisa Cramp. His family
was associated with hotelkeep-
ing for many years, and he
owned and conducted ,the
Royal Hotel at Reid's Flat for
23 years before retiring and
coming to Young to reside.
He was married to Miss
Clara Newham, the ceremony
being performed at Wyangala.
His wife and daughter survive
him. The daughter is Sylvia
(Mrs. J. C. Miller, of Young).
The remains were taken to
Cowra for burial, which was
made in the Church of Eng-
land cemetery. Archdeacon
Mirrington officiated at the
church and graveside.

• Newspaper: Family Notices, 1951 Nov 28, Sydney District, New South Wales, Australia. ¹⁵ Family Notices. (1951, November 28). The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), p. 30. Retrieved August 14, 2013, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18241458>

DEATHS
CRAMP, Alfred.'97November 5,
1951, at Young, N.S.W.

Alfred married Clara Newham [6712] [MW25-62D] [MRIN: 2641], daughter of Charles Thomas Newham [6480] [MW25-HF2] and Ellen Cinnomon Hammond [6391] [MW25-HF1], in 1899 in Wyangala Parish, Georgiana County, New South Wales. (Clara Newham [6712] [MW25-62D] was born on 1877 Jan 9 in Borrowa Distrct, New South Wales,¹⁶ died on 1962 Mar 20 in Cowra, Bathurst County, New South Wales, Australia ³ and was buried in Cowra Cemetery, Bathurst County, New South Wales, Australia ³.)

  Noted events in their marriage were:

• Registration: Marriage, 1899, Boorowa District, New South Wales. ¹⁷ 5601/1899
CRAMP, ALFRED
NEWHAM, CLARA
BOOROWA