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Thomas Rayner [17612]
(1799-1881)
Mary Downing [17613]
(Abt 1805-1884)
Sophia Rayner [7380]
(1846-1916)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. William George Cramp [7379] [KN3C-S13]

2. John M'Phail [28987] [L65B-X72]

Sophia Rayner [7380] 2

  • Born: 1846 Feb 7, Williams River, New South Wales 1
  • Christened: 1847 Feb 8, Eldon, Nsw 3
  • Marriage (1): William George Cramp [7379] [KN3C-S13] on 1867 Apr 3 in Grafton, Clarence County, New South Wales 1
  • Marriage (2): John M'Phail [28987] [L65B-X72] about 1886
  • Died: 1916 Oct 20, Gympie, , Queensland, Australia at age 70 1
  • Buried: 1916 Oct 21, Gympie, , Queensland, Australia 3

bullet   FamilySearch ID: KN31-N7W.

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bullet  Noted events in her life were:

• Registration: Birth, 1847, New South Wales. 4 V18472215 32A/1847
RAYNER, SOPHIA
THOMAS
MARY

• Newspaper: FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30.?Before the P.M, 1885 Oct 31, New South Wales. 5 FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30.'97Before the P.M. (1885, October 31). Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 -1889), p. 5. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62150103>

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30.-Before the P.M
BREACHES OF THE PUBLIC INSTITUTION ACT.
S. E. Van and Sophia Cramp were each fined 2s 6d, without costs, for neglecting to send their chil-dren to school as required by the Public Instruction Act.

• Newspaper: SOPHIA CRAMP V. ARCHIBALD M'PHAIL, 1892 Mar 8, New South Wales. 6 THIRD DAY MONDAY. (1892, March 8). Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW : 1889 -1915), p. 5. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article61243194>

SOPHIA CRAMP V. ARCHIBALD M'PHAIL.-Action for detinue ; £200 claimed. Mr. Donaldson for plaintiff, Mr. M'Guren for defendant. Tho defence was that the goods claimed were not dotained by defendant, nor were in his possession.
Plaintiff deposed that the goods claimed were in John M'Phail s house, at Pillar Valley, in March, 1891. The house was on a 190-acre piece of land she had rented it from John M'Phail at the time. She told defendant to live in the house and take care of the things till she wanted them. She was going to live in Grafton. In January last she demanded the goods, as per order produced. Defendant said he would not give up the goods till his brother John went and saw him about the property.
By Mr. M'Guren : The goods have since been levied upon under an execution obtained against John M'Phail by the E. S. and A. C. Bank. Some of the goods originally belonged to John M'Phail, but were sold to her on the day before they left Pillar
Valley to come to Grafton.
Defendant said that he informed John M'Phail that the Bank had seized the stock on the place. He asked him (defendant) if they seized the furni-ture in the house, and he replied that he did not know. John M'Phail directed him not to give up the furniture to anyone. The furniture was given into his hands by John M'Phail, The goods have since been seized under an execution by the Bank. He knew the property was leased, by John M'Phail to plaintiff, but he looked on this as a sham.
Verdict for defendant, and expenses of one wit-ness.

• Newspaper: Grafton District Court, 1893 Mar 14, New South Wales. 7 Grafton District Court. (1893, March 14). Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW : 1889 -1915), p. 8. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article61249635>

R. R. Donaldson v. Elizabeth Fiddaman £10 7s 6d. dishonored p.n.
Same v. Sophia Cramp, £10 0s 6d ; to paid in three instalments.

• Newspaper: Advertising, 1902 Jul 2, Lismore District, New South Wales, Australia. 8 Advertising. (1902, July 2). Northern Star (Lismore, NSW : 1876 -1954), p. 1. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article72062258>

TO THE LICENSING MAGISTRATES FOR THE LICENSING DISTRICT OF LISMORE
I, SOPHIA CRAMP, of Clunes, Boarding House-keeper, do hereby give notice that I desire to obtain and will, at the next Quarterly Licensing Court, to be holden at Lismore on the sixteenth day of July next, apply for a Certificate authoris-ing the issue of a COLONIAL WINE LICENSE for a house situate at Clunes, of the annual value of twenty-six pounds a year.
Dated the thirty-first day of May, one thousand | nine hundred and two.
SOPHIA CRAMP. MCINTOSH AND BEST,
Attorneys for Applicant,
Lismore.

• Newspaper: LISMORE POLICE COURT, 1906 Feb 10, Lismore District, New South Wales, Australia. 9 LISMORE POLICE COURT. (1906, February 10). Northern Star (Lismore, NSW : 1876 -1954), p. 4. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71847848>
Cattle on the Railway.
Mrs. Sophia Cramp was charged with having, on December 24th, allowed to stray on the-railway line 28 cows. Defendant, who pleaded not guilty, was defended by Mr. McIntosh.
Mr. Meiklejohn, acting District Railway Superintendent, appeared to prosecute.
John Brough, a railway ganger, deposed that on December 24th last, as the result of certain inst ructions, he went along, the line towards Tunstall for the purpose of taking animals straying on the railway line. On his return journey to Lismore witness saw 28 cows being turned in at a private crossing. These cattle were afterwards found straying on the line. Witness subsequently found the cattle be-longed to Mrs. Cramp, on whose behalf they were claimed by a man. The man took the cattle from witness who took a receipt from him. ; Cattle straying on the line knocked the road about a good deal. and were, besides, a source of danger.
Persons having private or occupation cross-ings are given keys, and they are held re-sponsible for keeping the gates locked.
By Mr. McIntosh : The gates are strong and substantial on good heavy posts about five feet high. While going out towards Tunstall witness saw no cattle, on the line. and when he came back was after milking time. At the point where he saw the cat-tle the line cut the property in two parts. There was no cattle stops on private cross-ings, and the gates open away from the railway line. On the day in question wit-ness saw someone driving the cattle on to the line. One gate was open and the other shut.
Thomas Watson, Inspector of Permanent Ways, Grafton-to-Tweed, deposed that on Sunday, December 21 he went along the line towards Tunstall. On the way out he line towards Tunstall. On the way out he noticed that one of the private crossing gates was opened and the other one was shut. Witness then saw 17 head on the line. Later on he saw 28 head of cattle on the line. Witness saw a boy. and sent him to get the person who owned, or was In charge of the cattle. A man came and took charge of the cattle, and gave witness a receipt for them. The cattle had beendeliberately driven on to the line, because one gate was closed. The by-laws and penalties are exhibited at Tunstall and Lismore stations. The document pro-duced was similar to those exhibited. John Greenland, cattle dealer, deposed that on the afternoon of Dec. 21 he saw some cattle on the railway line near Tun-stall, there were 28 altogether. They partly belonged to Mrs. Cramp. Witness, on Mrs. Cramp's behalf, took possession of the cattle from the Inspector. Mrs. Cramp, when she heard the cattle had been seized, told witness to go over and see about them. Witness went, over and had a conversation with Mr. Watson. He then took the the cattle to Mrs. Cramp's place from off the line.
By Mr. McIntosh : At 4 o'clock the boy was sent to take the cattle to the paddock for the night. He hail no instructions to put the cattle on the line. He was told to put them in the night paddock and then go hume. There was sometimes difficulty in getting cattle across the line. There were no fastenings on the gates, and noth-ing to prevent cattle running on to the line.
John Brough, re-called, deposed that on December 21 the fastenings and catches on the, gates were correct. No effort was made to turn the cattle back until witness arrived on the scene.
This concluded the case for the prosecu-tion.
Sophia Cramp, the defendant, deposed that she knew nothing about, the cattle being on the line till afterwards. The boy who was driving the cattle on Dec. 24 was her son and a cripple. The son who usually drove the cattle was very ill and not expected to live. Witness did not know much that went on about that time.
Witness had paddocks on both sides of the line, and had no intention of having the cattle put on the Line. They were pas-tured at night on the opposite side of the line to the horses, and witness always cau-tioned the boys not to out the cattle over during train hours, and to be very care-ful.
By Mr. Meiklejohn : Witness had never been cautioned by the ganger Brough about allowing cattle to stray on the line.
The P.M. said that had the offence been committed on any day but Sunday he would have taken a more serious, view of the case. He fined the defendant £3, with 6s costs of court. In default he ordered her to be imprisoned in Lismore Lockup for two weeks.

• Registration: Death, 1916, Queensland, Australia. 10 1916/C4640
Sophia
Cramp
-Raynor
-** born New South Wales aged 69 years

• Newspaper: Family Notices, 1916 Oct 28, Gympie, , Queensland, Australia. 11 Family Notices. (1916, October 28). Gympie Times and Mary River Mining Gazette (Qld. : 1868 - 1919), p. 4. Retrieved July 24, 2015, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article187224884

CRAMP. ? At her residence, Nash
street, Gympie, after a short ill-
ness, on October 20th, Sophia
Cramp, aged 69 years.

• Newspaper: Family Notices, 1917 Oct 20, Gympie, , Queensland, Australia. 12 Family Notices. (1917, October 20). Gympie Times and Mary River Mining Gazette (Qld. : 1868 - 1919), p. 2. Retrieved July 8, 2015, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article188171095

IN MEMORIAM
CRAMP.'97 In memory of Mrs. S.
Cramp, who died at Nash street,
Gympie, on the 20th of October,
1926.
We miss thee from our home, dear
Mother,
We miss thee from thy place.
A shadow o'er our life is cast,
We miss the sunshine of thy face.
We miss thy kind and willing hand.
Thy fond and earnest care ;
Our home is dark without thee.
We miss thee everywhere.
Inserted by her daughter and son-
in-law, E. M. Greenland and J.
Greenland.
CRAMP. '97 cn loving memory of our
dear mother, Sophia Cramp, who
departed this life on 20th October.
1916.
Dearest Mother, thou hast left us.
We thy loss most deeply feel:
But 'tis God who has bereft us.
He can all our sorrows heal.
O, silent grave, to thee we trust,
This precious part, of earthly dust :
Guard it safely, sacred tomb.
Till we, her children, ask for room.

Inserted by her loving son and
daughter-in-law, Charlie and Alice
Cramp.


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Sophia married William George Cramp [7379] [KN3C-S13] [MRIN: 2125], son of Thomas George Cramp [500] [KD9W-4ZD] and Sarah Lefley [492] [LC89-HYD], on 1867 Apr 3 in Grafton, Clarence County, New South Wales.1 (William George Cramp [7379] [KN3C-S13] was born on 1847 May 31 in Strand, London, Middlesex, England and died on 1912 Jul 7 in Maclean, Clarence County, New South Wales, Australia 13.)

bullet  Noted events in their marriage were:

• Registration: Marriage, 1867, Grafton District, New South Wales. 14 2121/1867
CRAMP, WILLIAM G
RAYNER, SOPHIA
GRAFTON

• Newspaper: Grafton Police Court, 1886 Nov 13, New South Wales. 15 Grafton Police Court. (1886, November 13). Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 -1889), p. 4. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62100946>

WIFE DESERTION.
William George Cramp was summoned by his wife (Sophia Cramp) for having deserted her. Mr. Donaldson, for Mr Norrie, for complainant; Mr. Laman for defendant.
Complainant deposed that she was married defendant twenty-one years since at the English church, Grafton. Lived with him till two years since, when defendant, who became cross and hard to put up with, left her. They were then residing at Pillar Valley, defendant working for M'Phail. He promised to allow her 26s per month, but did not give her anything. They had ten children. She considered, having several children to support, that she is entitled to receive 15s per week.
By Mr. Laman : They did not live happily together through defendant's bad temper. Told defendant that it would be better to have a divorce than living the way they were, and he replied he was willing to keep her as long as he was able. The youngest child is a year and nine months old ; was born at Glen Innes. M'Phail did not pay her expenses to Glen Innes. The youngest child not her husband's. She begged the money from M'Phail to pay for her children's schooling, and also got money from some of her children wio were at service. Was living with M'Phail sixteen years, and he contributed to her support and that of her family.
John M'Phail, a selector, residing at Pillar Valley for the last five years, knew the parties before the Court for the past fifteen or seventeen years. They resided at his place for three years when Cramp left a little over two years ago. Was paying Cramp £100 a year and find himself. He asked witness to allow him to leave his wife there. Finding he did not return, went to him to request him, to remove his wife and family. He said he had no place to take them to, and requested permission to leave them at witness' place, till he got a place for them, and he would send what money he could to pay for their keep. All the money he sent was £7. Told complainant that he could not keep her, and she went to Armidale for three or four months. Met her in Glen Innes, and she told him she was starving and could not sup-port her family, and wanted to return. She did come back. Wrote to defendant several times ask-ing for money, but got no replies. Complainant stays at his place and does the housework. She had no property except some pet sheep. The youngest child is eighteen months old, but is not his.
By Mr. Laman : Am frequently away from home but his brother is mostly always there. Defendant on two occasions had some disputes with his brother, but witness did not order his brother off the place through Cramp stating that he had sus-picions between him and complainant. He contri-buted to the support of complainant and family as he did not wish to turn them out, and his brother in one instance paid for some store goods she had been supplied with. Complainant had power to order goods for the place equally the same as his brother. Defendant on one occasion said he had n0 suspicion of his brother in connection with his wife, but would say this to annoy her.
Mr. Laman submitted that after the admission of complainant that the court had no alternative but to dismiss the case. No order could be made to oblige a man to pay for the support of a wife who was unfaithful to him.
The P.M. hold that until a judicial separation were made, the law obliged a man to support his wife and family. He wished the Divorce Bill of Sir Alfred Stephen's, the best introduced to Parlia-ment last session, was passed, He also considered that justice in such cases should be as cheaply obtained as under the provisions of the Insolvent Act.
Defendant, who is engaged in driving teams a Coombadja deposed that he lived with his wife till two years and four mouths since. Bofore he left requested his wife to leave M'Phail's, as he disapproved of her carryings on with A. M'Phail He offered to maintain her if she would, but she
declined. Upwards of a month after went to he again, and wanted her to leave, but she would not come. Two months since promised her 25s per month. He was then butchering for Hutchings and Pritchard, of South Grafton, for 25s per week and board. He received no letters from M'Phail. He made no stipulations as to payment of 25s per month. Told John M'Phail that he suspected his brother of undue relations with his wife. The complainant's last child is not his.
Mr. Laman again urged that an order should not be made against defendant after the admitted infidel-ity of complainant, more particularly as the claim was for herself and not for her family.
Mr. Donaldson contended that in law the com-plainant was entitled to maintenance.
The P.M. said he had no discretion but to make an order, but, under the circumstances, would, as far as justice to the parties would admit, make it as little as possible. An order was made for £2 per mouth, payable monthly, and 5s 10d costs.


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Sophia next married John M'Phail [28987] [L65B-X72] [MRIN: 10866], son of John McPhail [17616] [KZNN-RS4] and Mary Ann Rankine [17617] [KH4V-JMJ], about 1886. (John M'Phail [28987] [L65B-X72] was born about 1837 in <Tasmania> and died on 1894 Sep 29 in Grafton, Clarence County, New South Wales.)


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Sources


1 Other Researchers, Judy Gordon.

2 Marion B Harper (CD Rom Created in April 2002
http://www.londonresearch.org.uk/cramp/ind_pag.html). .... NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/), Death 1906/001779.

3 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch," database, FamilySearch (http://new.familysearch.org : accessed 1 May 2014), entry for Sophia Rayner, person ID KN31-N7W.

4 NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/), V18472215 32A/1847.

5 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30.?Before the P.M. (1885, October 31). Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 -1889), p. 5. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62150103.

6 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), THIRD DAY MONDAY. (1892, March 8). Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW : 1889 -1915), p. 5. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article61243194.

7 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), Grafton District Court. (1893, March 14). Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW : 1889 -1915), p. 8. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article61249635.

8 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), Advertising. (1902, July 2). Northern Star (Lismore, NSW : 1876 -1954), p. 1. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article72062258.

9 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), LISMORE POLICE COURT. (1906, February 10). Northern Star (Lismore, NSW : 1876 -1954), p. 4. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71847848.

10 Queensland Births Deaths and Marriages, 1916/C4640.

11 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), Family Notices. (1916, October 28). Gympie Times and Mary River Mining Gazette (Qld. : 1868 - 1919), p. 4. Retrieved July 24, 2015, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article187224884.

12 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), Family Notices. (1917, October 20). Gympie Times and Mary River Mining Gazette (Qld. : 1868 - 1919), p. 2. Retrieved July 8, 2015, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article188171095.

13 NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/), 11171/1912.

14 NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/), 2121/1867.

15 (http://www.nla.gov.au/ms/findaids/), Grafton Police Court. (1886, November 13). Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 -1889), p. 4. Retrieved August 27, 2012, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62100946.


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